Workshop Minutes

City of Beacon Council Workshop Meeting

June 11, 2007

 

 

WORKSHOP

 

The City of Beacon Council Workshop Meeting began at 7:08 p.m.

 

In attendance were:

Mayor Clara Lou Gould

Council Members:  Lee Kyriacou, Charles Kelly, Phil Shea, and Steve Gold

 

Excused:  Council Members Elizabeth Foster and Eleanor Thompson

 

Also in Attendance were:  City Attorney Joseph Braun and City Attorney Gerard Pisanelli.

 

AGENDA

 

Mayor Clara Lou Gould:  Ordinarily residents are not permitted to speak at Workshop but in this situation the mayor announced that this would be permitted in an attempt to record the comments of the residents that this project would affect.

 

City Administrator Joseph Braun gave a brief description of what the possible plans are for Spring Valley Street.  It may or may not add sidewalks, and possibly make Spring Valley Street a one-way

 

Spring Valley - Comments from Residents

 

Peter R. Pavelock, 99 Spring Valley:  It is a good idea for the city to speak to the people who live on the street.  I do not think we need a sidewalk on Spring Valley Street.  More vehicles use the section in front of my house than people do.  We have not had sidewalks up to date and we do not need them now.  A suggestion is that we might have alternate side of the street parking.  We can also have parking stickers.  The parking should be designated for resident parking only.  Traffic direction:  Spring Valley has been a two way street for as long as I can remember.  What happens if there is an emergency?  I do not believe that it should be a one street.  Large trucks use this street to make deliveries.  Speed should be controlled:  Since I moved in, there have been 18 traffic accidents.  Why don’t they put in a stop sign?  The only thing that will control speed will be police presence.  Will the sewer line be replaced?

 

City Administrator, Joseph Braun:  The sewer line will be replaced on Spring Valley.

 

Chares Runner – I have been parking there since the late 60’s.  I have parked there for thirty years.  I see no reason for a one-way street.

 

Cathy Swain, 109 Spring Valley Street – I live on the Creek side.  You want to put a sidewalk on the creek side.  My mother is disabled.  If the sidewalks go in I will have to park all the way up to Spring Valley and Walcott.  We do not have trouble now.

 

Adrian D. Vasquez, 161 Spring Valley S  - I have to park across the street from my house.  The traffic is very at an excessive speed.  Can we have speed bumps?  If you do not have the police presence, the speed limit is violated.  In the winter when it snows, I have to hire a person to plow vehicles out after the city trucks come by and block us in.  To build a sidewalk on the creek side does not bother me.  People do not use that sidewalk.  They always walk on the road.  My main concern is the speed and the parking.  A one-way street would solve some of the problems.

 

Paul S. Kmiotek - 147 Spring Valley Street – If you put all sidewalks on my property, who will be responsible for the damage to the wall on my property?  I have two lots.  I personally don’t think that we need sidewalks on Spring Valley Street.

 

City Administrator, Joseph Braun:  Because we are replacing sidewalks, city will be responsible.

 

Wendy Brown 122 Spring Valley Street – Regarding safety.  Will you be rerouting the streetlights?  Was research done to take everything into consideration?  People do not use the sidewalks now.  Is a stop light being installed?  I am fine with either as long as it is safe.

 

City Administrator, Joseph Braun:  That is in the process of being designed

 

Shelia Archibald – Thank you Mr. Gold for listening.  I do not have a problem with Spring Valley being the way it is.  I do not want a sidewalk on my side of the street.  People use the sidewalk on the other side of the street.  I have enough problems dealing with the creek.  I feel that we do need speed bumps.  Why don’t you redo the sidewalks that you have instead of putting in new ones?

 

Thomas Strianese, 62 Spring Valley St. - I understand the need for sidewalks.  I think that the thing that I would like to see done is stop signs.  I own property on the creek side as well as the other side of the street.  If there was a curb on the other side of the street, that will eliminate people parking on the other side of the street.  My main concern is that of speed.  I have issues when people park on both sides of the street.

 

George Mansfield – I think the widening the street will make it an invitation as a speedway.  We need to slow things down.  I think that whatever is done, it should be in the interest of the people that live on Spring Valley Street.  My tenants are now afraid to confront the kids that hang out there.  This change could invite more kids hanging out.

 

Hank Dutch – 98 Spring Valley Street - We are looking at a street that is narrow.  There is no changing of that.  How do you use it as a connecting street?  It will not change.  What we need is more control of the street.  We need to slow the traffic.  I think that speed bumps will be very effective.  We need something to slow the traffic.  I am in favor of keeping the street two-way.  We will have a tremendous overflow of traffic if it becomes one-way.  The street was not built for that.  You are inviting problems at Union Street and Spring Valley Street.  Alternate parking for residents only is a good idea.  Sidewalks are up and down the street.  You may want to add cross walks.  It seems to me that you should keep the sidewalks that are there.  I hope we have another opportunity to get together to voice our concerns.

 

Shannon Adams 164 Spring Valley – I recently moved here so this is al new to me.  Most of us do not have driveways.  My car just got hit.  There is not enough room for two way street and parking on both sides of the street.  I have a retaining wall in the front of my house.  That is how my family gets in and out.  It is the narrowest part of the street. I am not opposed to having it one-way.  To take away the parking is not what I want to do.  Two lanes are impossible.  Either way is okay with me.

 

Mark Roland:  I want to strenuously oppose a one-way street.  There are a lot of reasons to have a one-way street but this is not one of them.  It seems that there is a problem of cars speeding.  This should be fixed.

 

Joe Drummor – I would have a problem driving out of my driveway.  It will be unsafe.  Cameras do a good job.  There are a lot of speeders.

 

Richard Crammer, 157 Spring Valley Street, - One issue is the parking on the mountainside.  Also, we have to be alert to snow warnings because of the plowings.  They tell me if I don’t like it I can go park in municipal parking.  Making a one-way street will solve a lot of problems.  Most people now park so far off the street that they are parking in other people's yards.  I cannot get my car anywhere near my house.

 

Kent Shawnee and Cheryl Nelson of 155 Spring Valley Street Email read by Steve Gold:  A portion of that email is as follows:

 

We believe that the foremost issue on Spring Valley concerns safety and the best way to address that issue is speed control and pedestrian walkways.  Cars and trucks speed on Spring Valley Street.  They rarely speed down for pedestrians and on-coming cars.

 

No further comments.

 

Mayor Gould:  We will turn these comments over to the engineer.

Council Member Gold:  We really do appreciate your coming.  There are so many people that show up, we feel that you really care. 

Council Member Kyriacou:  Our struggle is what to do with a limited amount of space.

 

Southern Dutchess Country Club - Bernie Ruf will be in attendance:

 

Mayor Clara Lou Gould:  Mr. Ruf will explain what his plans are for the Southern Dutchess County Country Club.

 

Bernie Ruf:  The reason that we are here is to share with the council our future idea for the Southern Dutchess County Club. – We have been in Beacon since 1902 – We hope we are a valuable part of the community and we would like to stay that way.  We are taking somewhat of a hit from the economy.  We put together a development plan by necessity.  We also put together a mission statement.  Our goal is to re-establish the Southern Dutchess County Club.  We have maintenance issues.  We have a new vision for our future.  We would like to renovate our clubhouse.  It is in disrepair.  We have several buildings on the property that we would like to relocate and renovate.  We envision something more attractive.  The series of drawing that are on our website are quite crude.  The plan we are thinking about involves an outside developer that would purchase some of this property and build town houses that is from 1800 up to 2600 square feet in living space... The town homes will include walkout basements.  Bill Deverou allowed us to use these photos because he would like to do the design for us.  There are also photos of some of the amenities.  Mr. Davis did a wonderful job of the first draft.  Because of the economy costs have increased.  Membership has declined from six years ago when there were over 600 members.  Membership is now roughly around 300.  We would like to bring back members.  The club does not have the same appeal that it used to.  We feel that it is our duty to protect the future of the country club.  We hope that you will help support us.  If we are allowed to go forward with our plan, we will be able to restore and preserve this historical building.  It is a city landmark.  I believe that the golf course will keep that space as long as possible.  We have to present this to a lot of people.  We are searching for a way to survive.  We need to do some things.  If we cannot come up with something, we will be selling 70 acres.

 

Mr. Ruf answered many questions from the council members.

 

Water Taxi Service - Authorize Agreement

Courtney Kain, 83 Broadway, Newburgh. - I work for Newburgh We wanted to push supervising some sort of service out of Beacon.  We applied for funding.  We hoped that we would get the funds for this year.   The water taxi will start June 23, 2007.  The tickets will be $8.00 one way.  There is a 24-passenger boat to transport riders.   We have been working with Metro North on this.  Newburgh is working with Hudson Cruises.  They can make this happen by keeping the funds and they are doing an advertising campaign on their boat.  On the 23 we are will be in service.

 

Council Member Kyriacou:  Inquired regarding liability.  If we are liable for something on the boat, we need to know.  This will be checked into.

Courtney Kain:  Hudson Cruise will be signing two contracts - one with Newburgh and one with Beacon.  The weekend service will be at 15-minute intervals.  It coincides with the Metro North train and the Beacon Trolley.  We are really excited.  It’s been a long

 

This will be on the agenda for Monday, June 18, 2007.

 

Dummy Light - *Location – See Attached List of Comments

 

"Dummy Light " Traffic Light - To Move or Not to Move  - Email Comments from Residents which include Name, Email Address, Comments and Vote:

 

Seth Kacur <sethkacur@hotmail.com> - Please do not move the dummy light.  That dummy light IS Beacon and it's not going anywhere on my watch.  NO

 

Charlie <sky67dude@yahoo.com> - Just my 2 cents but I kind of like that old "dummy light it definitely gives this end of Main St some character, in keeping with all the other great work that's going on here in Beacon.  No

 

The barrier around it in the pics in the City of Beacon report would be a nice idea to protect it if it remained there in the middle of the road would protecting the perimeter of it and possibly raising it up a bit be an option that would safely let larger vehicles by?  (I know it depends on the driver!)  NO

 

Clara Lou Gould beaconmayor@aol.com

Dummy light - one thought I've had when passing it on a daily basis.  If the 3 or 4 spaces that the bump out will remove were eliminated now, there would be more room to navigate around the light, and it would be okay where it is.  And if the one suggestion was to raise the light, that would help, too.  In essence, put the bump out area in the middle of the street and make no parking the width of East Main.

NO

 

Sam62054@aol.com <Sam62054@aol.com>

THAT LIGHT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER, AND PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN TO DRIVE.  WHEN THE FACTORIES WERE OPEN THERE WERE TRACTOR TRAILERS EVERY DAY AND THE LIGHT WAS THERE. PUT IT ON THE SIDEWALK AND THEN PEOPLE CAN WALK IN THE ROAD, AND BE HIT BY VEHICLES. No

 

Ginny Figlia - tfgf@juno.com <tfgf@juno.com>

I think moving the "Dummy" Light to an extended sidewalk is a terrific idea.  This way it is still in the same area but more protected from traffic.  Thanks for the interesting newsletter. - Yes

 

Theresa Kraft - Liberty Street - <tkraft@legentintl.com>

I was shocked to read in the City of Beacon's Newsletter Spring Issue May '07 that the Traffic Committee plans on having the Historical "Dummy" Traffic Light moved to the edge of the road.

 

There are numerous reasons not to move this Historical "Dummy" Traffic Light.

 

1. The function of the Historical "Dummy" Traffic Light changes if the location changes.

2. ONLY real Dummies hit this light and they should be held financial accountable to pay all cost incurred to repair the damage to the light back to perfect condition ASAP.

3. You can alter the road on the left and right sides of the light to accommodate larger vehicles to maneuver around the light, even if it means working out a deal with Metro North.

4. Cars/truck/buses etc will continue to hit it even in a new location just as much as if it is left free standing, once you have cars parked in front of and/or behind the light it will be obscured. Even if you change it to "no parking' zone people/cars/trucks etc. will always stop there regardless.

5. The reason for the light is to see it when you approach around the sharp corner on Main Street, if it moved to the side of the road it will be invisible - so what would be the point.

6.  I suggest building a larger, higher and wider base, built more substantial, stronger, re-enforced enough to withstand impact if a vehicle, regardless if it's a car, truck or bus, only vehicle feels the brunt. Have the local architects design the base that carries the diamond paint pattern so it looks historical.

 

Please rethink this move because the current move-it solution is not the best solution. Save Beacon's "historic treasures" where they stand.

 

PS.  Driving past that intersection I saw the sign on the building I read it as "another restaurant coming to town". No

 

Wendy Wolf-Durso - wallyandwendy@optonline.net

As a life long resident of Beacon I would like to see the Dummy Light left where it is and restored to working condition or at least as a blinking red for East Main and yellow for Main. I've never liked the garbage bag that was added a few years back.

 

I believe the problem of people hitting the light is the fear of hitting the cars parked directly across the street thus making a too tight of a swing against the light. Eliminate the 2 spaces directly across from the light and problem solved. You would be eliminating these spaces anyway if you moved the light and this would be much more cost effective than the thousands spent relocating it.  Thank you, - No

 

Cheryl A. Critelli-Neubauer  - cherylac@optonline.net

As a 48 year Beacon resident, I am in favor of the Dummy Traffic Light staying put. Not only is it a historical icon for the City of Beacon which acts as check point for providing directions, I see many a time where it also acts as a means to control the traffic patterns in the area in which it resides. - No

 

Dennis Pavelock

Would like to go on record as being in favor of keeping the dummy light where it is.  On a base would be okay, but stay in the middle of the street. - Would also like to have a public hearing on this. - No

 

Steven M Zimmerman - 475 Main Street - SMZhome@aol.com <SMZhome@aol.com>

I would like to see the dummy light stay where it is.  Traffic drives much too fast around the curve at the Howland Center and the police don't seem to do anything to slow it down.  Many people have nearly been hit in the crosswalk.  The light in the road tends to slow vehicles down a little.  Without it traffic will drive even faster.  If anything the light should stay where it is and be activated.  I would also like to see something done to slow traffic down at the Howland curve, possibly an all way set of stop signs. - No

 

Delos D. Luther II - 2 Judson St. - Beacon, NY  12508-3812 - 838-3638  - stransport@optonline.net - The sidewalk should be moved out and the light moved to the sidewalk. It would end a lot of problems in that intersection.  It is ridiculous that there are parking spaces directly behind the dummy light.  Have you ever tried to negotiate that turn with a large vehicle?

 

While you are fixing traffic problems, the cars that park along Prospect St. from E. Main to Alice create a terrible danger.  Most people do not stop for the stop sign on Prospect at Alice and when you have to be in the wrong lane to get past these vehicles it puts you in great danger of a collision. - Your attention to these items would be greatly appreciated. - Thank you, - Yes

 

Barbara O’Leary - 24 Falconer Street - Please do not remove the Historical Dummy Light from the intersection of Main and East Main Street.  Perhaps the Traffic Committee could post signs warning Large Trucks to take an alternate route.  The people of Beacon are losing every thing that made this City what it is.  I am positive other “Preserve America Communities” do not dismantle or move things that tell who we are. - NO

 

Gary Wood

110 Anderson Street  - ema58@optonline.net <ema58@optonline.net>

Dear Mayor Gould,
I am writing in support of leaving the "dummy light' in it's present location. The light has been there for many decades and serves a purpose of "traffic calming" as described in "Suburban Nation" by planners Duany,Plater-Zyberk and Speck. Studies have shown narrower street, winding streets and similar traffic calming procedures make for safer streets. Removal of the "dummy light " will increase traffic speed and make that area less safe for pedestrians.  Also another piece of Beacon will be lost by its movement. Government involvement in Urban Renewal in the 60's robbed Beacon of many landmarks such as Bank Square.  Oddities as the dummy light add to a city's character and uniqueness and should be preserved.
I appreciate the opportunity to express my opinion and hope the council leaves well enough alone.  No

 

Jeremiah French - Jeremiah French <french.jeremiah@gmail.com>

To whom it may concern:  The dummy light should definitely NOT be moved. I understand the idea but it seems purely aesthetic. The light now, serves as a definitive divider for traffic turning from and on to Main Street. It keeps order in an intersection, which is very busy and sees a various amount of large truck and bus traffic daily. Despite the occasional need to repair or repaint the light, it needs very little upkeep. If it costs very little to keep where it is, how could the money be justified in building a place for it and moving it? Aside from that, the loss of parking space where parking is scarce already is a hindrance, not help.  I just can't see it being justified from any perspective- and without a doubt should stay right where it is... and how about we get it lit up again? - NO

 

Mayor Clara Lou Gould:  Suggestion about raising the light.  The traffic law is that it should be so many feet above the ground.

Council Member Gold:  We can leave it there and make it safer.

Council Member Kelly:  How many times was it actually hit?

Mayor Clara Lou Gould:  I sent a letter to the traffic committee.

Council Member Gold:  This keeps people in their lanes.  People put these in traffic circles.  Maybe it should be elevated.  The historical society is up in arms about changing the location. 

City Attorney Pisanelli will do a resolution.

 

It will be put on the agenda for June 18, 2007.

 

Proposed Local Law to update Bonding Amount - See Proposed Local Law to Amendment to Beacon City Charter - Section 8.10, entitled "Exceptions to Referendum" - To Increase Amount.

 

This will go on the Agenda for June 18, 2007 to set a public hearing for July 2, 2007.

 

Church & North Cedar Parking - Purchase of Church and North Cedar Parking.  Grant is for $500, 00, Local Share is $100,00, Federal Share $400,000.  Reappraisal completed on March 26, 2007, which was $499,000 for all three lots - J. Braun will check on price of two lots.

 

This will be placed on the Agenda for June 18, 2007.

 

Proposed Local Law to update Bonding Amount - *See Proposed Local Law to AMENDMENT TO BEACON CITY CHARTER – SECTION 8.10, ENTITLED “Exceptions to referendum” – To increase Amount

 

This will be placed on the June 18, 2007 Council Meeting Agenda.

 

Amend Resolution 54 of 2007 - STOP DWI Contract….  Adding Sobriety Checkpoint $1,200 and Adding Fringe (25%) 300.00

 

Mayor Clara Lou Gould:  We need authorization to sign contract.

 

Request to Execute Tolling Agreement - See documentation dated May 22nd from Carol Y. Berns, Assistant Regional Counsel – United States Environmental Protection Agency.  RE:  Consolidated Iron & Metal Co., Inc. Superfund Site (“Site”), Newburgh, NY. 

 

This has to do with Junk cars.  This is to clean up the site.  They went through the records and established who is responsible for the junk cars.

 

A Resolution to consent will be placed on the agenda for June 18, 2007.

 

Proposed Local Law - Tabled at the June 4th Meeting - Second Reading:  §179-3(F) Of Chapter 179  Sewers” Is Renumbered As §179-3f(1) And A New Subsection 179-3f(2) Is Added.  See REVISED Proposed Local Law.

 

City Attorney Pisanelli:  This will be taken back to workshop.  In most cases we do not make local laws retroactive.  I don’t think you want to spend the money for a retroactive local law.

Council Member Kelly:  Can we go back to determine if the damage was done to January one?

Administrator Braun:  It would be difficult.  It could have been done from work that was done on the road by the state.  We might want to remove "retroactive back to January 1"

Council Member Kyriacou:  We should replace it if it is our fault.

Council Member Gold:  We should include in this law that if it is roots it is not covered.

City Administrator Braun:  If it is not the fault of the city, the property owner will pay for it.

 

Authorize applying for and Accepting Grants - Resolution authorizing and accepting funds for application to the National Park Service for a Preserve America grant for the City of Beacon Heritage Tourism and Wayfinding Project.  See Attached Resolution authorizing and accepting funds for application to NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation for an Environmental Protection Fund grant for the acquisition of the University Settlement Camp property See Attached

 

Susan Roeller Brown Grant Writer:  Gave a brief description of the above grants.

Council Member Gold:  If we use the money from the ski lodge property would that jeopardize the grant?

Susan:  I don’t think it will have an effect because it is city funds.  As long as we produced the cash that is required.

 

This will be put on the agenda for June 18, 2007

 

Proposed Local Law – To Add to Chapter 33 of the Beacon City Code entitled, “Harbor Management’ To Create a New Subsection C, to Section 33-8.  “Permit applications and procedures..  See attached History of Minutes 01/04//05, 01/10/05 and 02/07/05.

 

This goes back in 2005 when we had a proposal that was tabled.

 

This will be put on the June 18, 2007 Agenda to set a public hearing for July 2, 2007.

 

Resolution - Authorizing Tax Refund for 2006 and 2007 For Sculpture Beacon, LLC – See attached letter from K. Martin to G. Pisanelli in addition a copy of Consent Judgment dated May 7, 2007 ordered by Hon. John R. LaCava, J.S.C.

 

This was over assessed and a court order was issued by Hon John R. LaCava, JSC –

 

This will be placed on the June 18, 2007 Agenda.

 

Church and North Cedar Property:

 

Based on the appraisal those lots are worth $500,000.00 – 400,000 grant money.  This will be the two lots rather than the three. 

 

This will be placed on the agenda for June 18, 2007.

 

Vacant Buildings - Documentation previously distributed

 

Inter-municipal and Regional Cooperation. - See attached Executive Order “Establishing the New York State Commission on Local Government Efficiency and Competitiveness. Any Ideas?

 

We have intermunicipal Water and sewer, trails,

City Administrator Braun: I still believe that the assessing that is going on is far from ideal.  If we try to be uniform, it should be done on a regional basis.  Another area that I seen working well is the state processing it’s own survey with it’s own processing staff.  If the state had the facility, usually the county has a depository.  The county legislators all want to save money.  We want to push it to the county and they want to push it to us.

Council Member Kyriacou:  We should write down our ideas and present them to the county.  The one thing about emergency services is that we might coordinate this on a graveyard shift.  There might be some way to do that.  We can tell them that these are the things that we are willing to talk about.  We can do two buckets, the one that is hard and the one that is easy.  I will do a hard and easy bucket and we can do a resolution.  We can do this through an email.

 

Discussion of Pool Cleaning

 

Appointments / Ratifications /Announcement

 

Update:

 

Other Business

 

Upcoming Workshop Agenda Items

June 25th Workshop

Conservation Advisory Commission – Jerry P. City Attorney will have Proposed Local Law.

Beacon Economic Development Task Force

Glenn Scofield – Captain – Budget Discussion (or July 9th)

 

Council Agenda

Monday, June 18, 2007 

Community Segment:  Timothy Joseph – Fire Chief

 

Workshop ended at:  10:10

 

 

Submitted by Lucy M Cullinan - June 19, 2007